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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-59233</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what bugs me about &quot;bits&quot; is that it&#039;s not explicitly a laundry word. And when you start with &quot;you wouldn&#039;t believe,&quot; I expect to be informed of what funny, odd, weird, surprising bits are found. If it is just laundry parts, well... I would believe, because we find laundry around. And &quot;bits of us&quot; is kinda metaphoric; I expect you to find pieces of lives, hearts, souls, etc. Not just two mismatched socks and a washcloth. The first line of a poem often sets up expectations, and though the rest of the piece delivers some quality stuff, it doesn&#039;t deliver on the first line, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what bugs me about &#8220;bits&#8221; is that it&#8217;s not explicitly a laundry word. And when you start with &#8220;you wouldn&#8217;t believe,&#8221; I expect to be informed of what funny, odd, weird, surprising bits are found. If it is just laundry parts, well&#8230; I would believe, because we find laundry around. And &#8220;bits of us&#8221; is kinda metaphoric; I expect you to find pieces of lives, hearts, souls, etc. Not just two mismatched socks and a washcloth. The first line of a poem often sets up expectations, and though the rest of the piece delivers some quality stuff, it doesn&#8217;t deliver on the first line, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gilliard</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-59167</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so now for some questions for you. 

I agree with your thought about &quot;delicates&quot; here. It&#039;s too damn frilly to be clowning around with those cowboy hands anyway. It seems a bit too silly.  I&#039;ll work out another word or two there. But my real problem with this stanza was the rhyme. I struggles with why it&#039;s there. It was accidental, and to me it sticks out like a hitchhiker&#039;s thumb. Since there is no other rhyming in the piece, should I take it out?

Also, the &quot;mourning&quot; pun was taken out in the first edit. I just used the expected setting. My audience is far from stupid and can connect the dots themselves. With your comments I&#039;m thinking perhaps the Solomon line is a bit out of place, and perhaps I could add another stanza about the &quot;bits&quot;. 

Now about the &quot;bits&quot;. since this piece is obstensibly about doing laundry, while discussing the dissolution of a relationship/cohabitation, would adding non clothing bits diffuse the impact of the piece?

Just food for thought and hopefully discussion.

I like the idea of the process being somewhat tranparent here. 

Thanks for giving me the kick in the pants that got a good poem out of me for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so now for some questions for you. </p>
<p>I agree with your thought about &#8220;delicates&#8221; here. It&#8217;s too damn frilly to be clowning around with those cowboy hands anyway. It seems a bit too silly.  I&#8217;ll work out another word or two there. But my real problem with this stanza was the rhyme. I struggles with why it&#8217;s there. It was accidental, and to me it sticks out like a hitchhiker&#8217;s thumb. Since there is no other rhyming in the piece, should I take it out?</p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;mourning&#8221; pun was taken out in the first edit. I just used the expected setting. My audience is far from stupid and can connect the dots themselves. With your comments I&#8217;m thinking perhaps the Solomon line is a bit out of place, and perhaps I could add another stanza about the &#8220;bits&#8221;. </p>
<p>Now about the &#8220;bits&#8221;. since this piece is obstensibly about doing laundry, while discussing the dissolution of a relationship/cohabitation, would adding non clothing bits diffuse the impact of the piece?</p>
<p>Just food for thought and hopefully discussion.</p>
<p>I like the idea of the process being somewhat tranparent here. </p>
<p>Thanks for giving me the kick in the pants that got a good poem out of me for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-59159</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some detailed comments for Matt on his piece, above:

You start off very nicely, and I was looking forward to hearing about other &quot;bits of us.&quot; When you start with something like, &quot;You wouldn&#039;t believe...&quot; it sets up, I think, a real expectation. Which then isn&#039;t fulfilled, really, since the rest of the piece, after the first stanza, doesn&#039;t give us any more pieces.

I think the &quot;mourning&quot; pun is unnecessary.

&quot;Take the black from blues&quot; is a great line.

I like the thought behind &quot;delicates,&quot; but you just gave us &quot;bused knuckles&quot; and jeans and salt... all pretty gritty images, which is at odds with the kinda dainty word &quot;delicates.&quot; I&#039;d rather know a specific -- bra, panties, boxers -- because it would be, I think, more in keeping with the very personal nature of this.

The fourth stanza is perfect.

And I really like the last stanza; the image of taking this personal stuff, this history, after a round with mechanical beatings, and leaving it out for the storm winds to ruffle. Nice.

I almost wonder if you need those first two stanzas. If you start with, &quot;I&#039;m rubbing salt...&quot; that&#039;s a good, hard, real line. And since I don&#039;t get any additional &quot;bits&quot; anyway.... ;-)

Lovely, overall. Glad to see something new from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some detailed comments for Matt on his piece, above:</p>
<p>You start off very nicely, and I was looking forward to hearing about other &#8220;bits of us.&#8221; When you start with something like, &#8220;You wouldn&#8217;t believe&#8230;&#8221; it sets up, I think, a real expectation. Which then isn&#8217;t fulfilled, really, since the rest of the piece, after the first stanza, doesn&#8217;t give us any more pieces.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;mourning&#8221; pun is unnecessary.</p>
<p>&#8220;Take the black from blues&#8221; is a great line.</p>
<p>I like the thought behind &#8220;delicates,&#8221; but you just gave us &#8220;bused knuckles&#8221; and jeans and salt&#8230; all pretty gritty images, which is at odds with the kinda dainty word &#8220;delicates.&#8221; I&#8217;d rather know a specific &#8212; bra, panties, boxers &#8212; because it would be, I think, more in keeping with the very personal nature of this.</p>
<p>The fourth stanza is perfect.</p>
<p>And I really like the last stanza; the image of taking this personal stuff, this history, after a round with mechanical beatings, and leaving it out for the storm winds to ruffle. Nice.</p>
<p>I almost wonder if you need those first two stanzas. If you start with, &#8220;I&#8217;m rubbing salt&#8230;&#8221; that&#8217;s a good, hard, real line. And since I don&#8217;t get any additional &#8220;bits&#8221; anyway&#8230;. <img src='http://www.tinkerx.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lovely, overall. Glad to see something new from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gilliard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Gilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy- Can&#039;t hardly wait.</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-58931</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt -- some really nice stuff here. Will comment more later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8212; some really nice stuff here. Will comment more later.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gilliard</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-58884</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well my attempt at this exercise failed miserably as far as following the instructions. I suppose I was a little too maverick in my following of the instructions, but it did give me an idea that I feel gave me a bettter than average bit of poetry. 

So I&#039;ll post it here. Any feedback, no matter how brusque is appreciated.

Wash time in the house of evening


You wouldn&#039;t believe the bits of us 
I&#039;ve found under chairs, thrown 
over the backs of doors, forgotten 
at the back of kitchen drawers, tangled
inside sheets at the foot of the bed.

Everything&#039;s gray in mourning
Who can tell dark from light
yours from mine
I haven&#039;t art to tear it 
clean down the middle
some washwater Solomon 
You know, I&#039;m not that wise.

I&#039;m rubbing salt on denim
with busted knuckles
to lighten the stain, 
before the soap, to soak
take the black from blues
Just let me touch 
your delicates 
I&#039;ll do the same for you.

All our issued articles 
take their turn in centrifuge
agitate, thump, and spin, 
rattle trap and drown 
then dragged out 
quarrelous snakes
intertwined and sinking
fangs from history&#039;s crush 

I fold me into perfect square
to mock and better fit
into boxes off shipping docks
your tossed over familiar lines 
snapping at the bluster
of stormcloud winds while 
the house of evening 
finally falls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well my attempt at this exercise failed miserably as far as following the instructions. I suppose I was a little too maverick in my following of the instructions, but it did give me an idea that I feel gave me a bettter than average bit of poetry. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll post it here. Any feedback, no matter how brusque is appreciated.</p>
<p>Wash time in the house of evening</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t believe the bits of us<br />
I&#8217;ve found under chairs, thrown<br />
over the backs of doors, forgotten<br />
at the back of kitchen drawers, tangled<br />
inside sheets at the foot of the bed.</p>
<p>Everything&#8217;s gray in mourning<br />
Who can tell dark from light<br />
yours from mine<br />
I haven&#8217;t art to tear it<br />
clean down the middle<br />
some washwater Solomon<br />
You know, I&#8217;m not that wise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rubbing salt on denim<br />
with busted knuckles<br />
to lighten the stain,<br />
before the soap, to soak<br />
take the black from blues<br />
Just let me touch<br />
your delicates<br />
I&#8217;ll do the same for you.</p>
<p>All our issued articles<br />
take their turn in centrifuge<br />
agitate, thump, and spin,<br />
rattle trap and drown<br />
then dragged out<br />
quarrelous snakes<br />
intertwined and sinking<br />
fangs from history&#8217;s crush </p>
<p>I fold me into perfect square<br />
to mock and better fit<br />
into boxes off shipping docks<br />
your tossed over familiar lines<br />
snapping at the bluster<br />
of stormcloud winds while<br />
the house of evening<br />
finally falls.</p>
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		<title>By: taleswapper</title>
		<link>http://www.tinkerx.com/2008/07/28/poetry-writing-exercise-for-matt/#comment-58868</link>
		<dc:creator>taleswapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did &lt;a href=&quot;http://taleswapper.blogspot.com/2008/07/poetry-tinker.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt;, but I&#039;m not sure I followed the rules completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did <a href="http://taleswapper.blogspot.com/2008/07/poetry-tinker.html" rel="nofollow">one</a>, but I&#8217;m not sure I followed the rules completely.</p>
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